[p4] Perforce and Sharepoint

Robert Cowham robert at vaccaperna.co.uk
Fri Nov 17 02:43:45 PST 2006

For a possibly biased but interesting take:


Some quotes:
You look on the Microsoft web site and it is a very confused picture. You
are not told what Sharepoint is; you are told what Sharepoint does....

Sharepoint is first and foremost an exercise by Microsoft to extend their
monopoly of Office...

At the end of the demo, you get a circular diagram that lists:
Collaboration, Portal, Search, Content Management, Business Process
Management and Business Intelligence, surrounding a platform core circle.
This is to illustrate the very confusing distinction of Microsoft Office
Sharepoint Server (MOSS 2007) from the operating system level of Windows
Sharepoint Services 3.0. Obviously a Microsoft turf war in the making....

Note the writer, John Newton, and links to 

http://www.alfresco.com/ which looks very interesting.

>From about page: founded in 2005 by John Newton, co-founder of DocumentumR
and John Powell, former COO of Business ObjectsR. Its investors include the
leading investment firms Accel Partners and Mayfield Fund.


> -----Original Message-----
> From: perforce-user-bounces at perforce.com 
> [mailto:perforce-user-bounces at perforce.com] On Behalf Of Scott Barney
> Sent: 16 November 2006 20:05
> To: busterrey at speakeasy.net; perforce-user at perforce.com
> Subject: Re: [p4] Perforce and Sharepoint
> Be clear whether you're talking about SharePoint Team 
> Services (included with Windows Server) or SharePoint Portal 
> Server, a separate product.
> The names have caused (IMHO) a lot of confusion. If I may 
> oversimplify:
> They started as completely unrelated products -- SharePoint 
> Portal Server grew out of Site Server, SharePoint Team 
> Services grew out of the server-side FrontPage Server 
> Extensions. Both provide (or have provided) document 
> repositories with pretty different capabilities.
> The 2001 release of Portal Server included a document 
> management system with simple workflow (eg, different users 
> could be marked as authors/editors/approvers for different 
> documents). That system was based on the Exchange data store, 
> which kind of lost out to SQL Server.
> In V2 (2003?) the system still existed, but was deprecated. I 
> don't know about V3+.
> The 2001 release of Team Services started with a nice concept 
> of shared lists, stored in SQL Server. A calendar could be 
> handled as a list of meetings; a discussion area as a list of 
> messages; and a file repository as a list of records 
> (metadata) with attached binary files. There wasn't much 
> (any?) workflow or security, although that's probably improved.
> One detail that might be important to this audience: To my 
> knowledge, MS provides no filesystem support for either kind 
> of repository. Access is through Office's Web Folders shell 
> extension -- which works great for Office and the like, but 
> there's nothing you can CD to and no way to run simple 
> command-line utilities (perl scripts or compilers) on the files.

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