[p4] Un-delete a job?

[Shawn Hladky]

Jobs are versioned, fix records (job to changelist associations) are not.

On 4/26/07, Bennett, Patrick <Patrick.Bennett at inin.com> wrote:
>
> This isn't true.
> Jobs are versioned in the //spec depot if you have one.
>
> Patrick Bennett
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: perforce-user-bounces at perforce.com
> [mailto:perforce-user-bounces at perforce.com] On Behalf Of Shawn Hladky
> Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 12:28 PM
> To: paul goffin
> Cc: perforce-user at perforce.com
> Subject: Re: [p4] Un-delete a job?
>
> In my opinion, this is one of the biggest gaps in Perforce.  Our change
> management process relies heavily on jobs/fixes, and this lack of
> historical
> evidence is frustrating.  It's a big pain to sift through log and
> journal
> files to figure this stuff out.  We actually lie to our users, and tell
> them
> that Perforce won't let them unfix jobs.  If they submitted a changelist
> with the wrong job fixed they send us an e-mail to re-fix.  Since our
> users
> generally don't use the command line or read help files, our little lie
> worked.  That is, until the new GUIs came out with context menus to
> un-fix
> jobs.
>
> At a minimum, I think Perforce needs a trigger on fix / un-fix... we can
> implement security that way, and it would also help the defect tracking
> integrations.  Full-blown versioning of fix records would be nice too.
>
> On 4/26/07, paul goffin <paul.goffin at dsl.pipex.com> wrote:
> >
> > "p4 jobs" is an "engineering whiteboard".  Once someone (anyone! - the
> > room the
> > whiteboard is kept in doesn't have a lock on the door...) has run a
> damp
> > cloth
> > over it, everything has gone.
> >
> > Paul
> >
> >
> >
> > Quoting Jeff Grills <jgrills at drivensnow.org>:
> >
> > >
> > > There's no undelete for jobs I know of, but you should be able to
> grab
> > the
> > > appropriate records from last night's checkpoint and today's journal
> > > (excluding the delete entries, of course) and replay them in to your
> > current
> > > server to restore the records for the job.  I don't know the full
> range
> > of
> > > records that would be necessary, but perforce support probably
> already
> > knows
> > > or can figure it out quickly.  If you don't have a support contract,
> you
> > > should be able to figure out the records necessary by looking at
> exactly
> > > what was deleted by the errant delete, or by looking at the DB
> schema.
> > >
> > > Do you have a spec depot?  It might have what you need in it as
> well,
> > but
> > > I'm not sure.  I haven't used the spec depot nor jobs very
> extensively.
> > >
> > > j
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: perforce-user-bounces at perforce.com
> > > [mailto:perforce-user-bounces at perforce.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Jensen
> > > Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2007 3:07 PM
> > > To: perforce-user at perforce.com
> > > Subject: [p4] Un-delete a job?
> > >
> > >
> > > So someone deleted a job that had many checkins to it.  Is there a
> > practical
> > > way to undelete it?
> > >
> > > If not, is there a practical way to create a new one of the same
> name
> > and
> > > have the prior changelists associated with the new one as with the
> > deleted
> > > one? _______________________________________________
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