[p4] Mailing list question - posts seem to take longer thanexpected to show through list

Greg Whitfield Greg.Whitfield at lightworkdesign.com
Wed Nov 7 13:53:45 PST 2007


It's been a problem with this mailing list for as long as I can
remember. The interval between send and receive can be many hours. I
guess that's why we get so many replies to the same question saying the
same thing - people just don't see the "earlier" replies.

As to why, I guess that's a question for Perforce.

But I do recall a story that could explain it. Several years ago an
acquaintance of mine was hired by a Mid-East government to advise on
improving internet access for the state. He was quite surprised to see
the central government email gateway was a roomful of women who retyped
every incoming email from abroad - censoring as appropriate - before
passing on a paper copy to the intended recipient. As a result
turnaround time was measured in hours or even days.

The story may be apophrical, of course :)   But imagine the carnage when
spam started to get popular!

Greg
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Sent 21:55 GMT.


-----Original Message-----
From: perforce-user-bounces at perforce.com
[mailto:perforce-user-bounces at perforce.com] On Behalf Of Looney, James B
Sent: 07 November 2007 15:07
To: Perforce Users Mailing List
Subject: [p4] Mailing list question - posts seem to take longer
thanexpected to show through list

Why is it that posts seem to take a very, very, very long time to show
back up through the mailing list?

- Below, Jay's email shows that he sent it on 11/06/2007 at 11:05am.
- I received that email through the Perforce mailing list at 3:15pm.
- I responded at 3:28pm (the email below shows 2:28pm, so I'm guessing
there's a time zone change somewhere).
- My email didn't show up on the list until 11/07/2007 at 12:46am.

Even looking at the times +/- one hour (for time zone changes), it still
takes a very long time for those emails to make it through.  Anyone know
why it takes so long?  When I post through any Python mailing list, it
shows up in about 5 minutes.

(Just because I'm curious...) I'm sending this 11/07/2007 at 8:04am,
Mountain time.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: perforce-user-bounces at perforce.com
> [mailto:perforce-user-bounces at perforce.com] On Behalf Of Looney, James

> B
> Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2007 2:28 PM
> To: Jay Glanville; Perforce Users Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [p4] (no subject)
> 
> Why not use a trigger to check the LineEnd value when the user 
> creates/edits the workspace?  That'd cover future workspace 
> creation/updates, although it's fairly easy to write a script that can

> also go through all clients checking the LineEnd value and either 
> reporting or changing it.
> 
> -James
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: perforce-user-bounces at perforce.com
> > [mailto:perforce-user-bounces at perforce.com] On Behalf Of
> Jay Glanville
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2007 11:05 AM
> > To: Perforce Users Mailing List
> > Subject: [p4] (no subject)
> > 
> > Hello all,
> > 
> > What, in your opinion, is the best way to prevent users from 
> > submitting text files that use the 'wrong' (ie: Window's CR/LF) line

> > ending style?
> > 
> > I've told all my P4 users that they should be using the 'share' line

> > ending property for their workspaces, but there's always one in a 
> > bunch who'll forget.
> > 
> > My first thought was to write a trigger that would check all text 
> > files on check in, but that might get a little onerous on the 
> > server, especially when creating a new branch with 17,000 files in 
> > it.
> > 
> > Any suggestions I haven't thought of?
> > 
> > Thanks
> > 
> > JDG
> > 
> > ---
> > Jay Dickon Glanville
> > 
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